a conversation with…
Marquita Grenot-Scheyer
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Dr. Marquita Grenot-Scheyer is chair of the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing, and one of three public representatives appointed by the governor. She retired in 2021 from her position as assistant vice chancellor, Educator Preparation and Public School Programs for California State University (CSU) where she was responsible for leading, coordinating and facilitating system-wide efforts to recruit, prepare and retain teachers, counselors and school leaders. Prior to that appointment, she served as dean of the College of Education at CSU Long Beach from 2008 to 2016 and was also a professor there.
a conversation with…
Marquita Grenot-Scheyer
Dr. Marquita Grenot-Scheyer is chair of the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing, and one of three public representatives appointed by the governor. She retired in 2021 from her position as assistant vice chancellor, Educator Preparation and Public School Programs for California State University (CSU) where she was responsible for leading, coordinating and facilitating system-wide efforts to recruit, prepare and retain teachers, counselors and school leaders. Prior to that appointment, she served as dean of the College of Education at CSU Long Beach from 2008 to 2016 and was also a professor there.
Marquita Grenot-Scheyer headshot
What are the main duties of the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing?
The commission has three primary responsibilities that are framed in education statute — educator preparation, educator licensure and reporting. As the licensure and standards-making body for California, all of our work falls into these three areas. Under educator preparation, we set rigorous standards, we accredit educator preparation programs, we develop and maintain performance assessments and examinations, and we administer and monitor grants for educators entering and progressing through the teacher pipeline.

Under educator licensure, we provide licenses to California educators, which is anybody who might be in a school site. It’s not just teachers, but counselors, leaders, school psychologists, school nurses — it’s a range of education professionals that we license. We monitor these assignments. And a big part of our work is to investigate educator misconduct and take appropriate disciplinary action. This area of investigation and disciplinary action is one the public doesn’t see, nor should they, because it is a confidential manner, but I think it is one of the most important requirements and tasks of the commission to keep children and youth safe in our schools.

The third area is reporting. We develop and share different reports on key education issues, including educator supply and credentialing. For example, every April, we get a teacher supply report.

The CTC has a couple of major projects they are working on right now. Let’s start with the PK-3 Education Specialist Credential. Can you tell us about the need for this credential and where in the process the credential is?
The need for early child educators is just huge. After working for several years, we came one step closer to establishing this preK-3 credential designed to meet the workforce needs of the youngest members of our community. The work has been collaborative, iterative and thoughtful, and has involved constituents from early childhood care providers, community college faculty and staff, four-year institutions and four-year colleges’ faculty and staff. While not every segment got what it wanted, I think the credential provides a good “floor,” if you will, to have this credential and the standards approved so that programs can begin building these new early childhood credential programs. We’re really excited about it.

The collective goal is that we want to make sure that this workforce is as diverse as the children that they are serving. And we have an opportunity here, because when you compare early childhood providers with K-12 teachers, this group is more diverse to begin with. There are more Black and brown women, in particular, who make up this workforce.

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What programs and initiatives are in place to promote educator diversity? What are the benefits of a diverse teacher workforce for students?
The literature is clear regarding the positive benefits of having a diverse educator workforce for students of color. That is, these educators tend to provide more culturally relevant teaching practices and better understand the situations that students of color may face coming into the public school space. Therefore, they’re better able to develop a trusting teacher-student relationship.

Educators of color can also serve as what we call cultural ambassadors to help students of color feel more welcome at schools and as role models for students of color. Teachers of color tend to have more positive perceptions of students of color.

It’s also important to emphasize that students of all racial backgrounds can benefit from having a diverse teacher and educator workforce. In some parts of our country, not so much in California, there are no teachers or leaders of color in a school. And so, think about the perceptions that white students may have about leaders of color. When you have educators of color in classrooms, then you have opportunities to talk about race, assumptions about race, class and privilege that are not present in situations where there are not teachers of color.

The most recent teacher supply report looked at the PK-12 student demographics and then compared them with the teaching workforce. While 45 to 50 percent of teachers in California are Latino, a much smaller percentage of teachers are African American, so they don’t reflect the percentage of diversity of our students, but they do reflect the diversity of a workforce overall.

Our job as a commission is to set standards for educator preparation programs that are developing credentials that reflect diversity, equity and inclusion. We provide that vision, that guidance, that expectation, and then it’s our preparation programs that build programs that would result in candidates who have a deep understanding of diversity, equity and inclusion.

Why is the Reading Instruction Competence Assessment (RICA) being replaced with the new Literacy Program Standards and teaching performance expectations, and how are those being developed?
Senate Bill 488 in 2021 required the commission to update its standards and the teaching performance expectations (TPEs) for preparation programs for multiple and single subject and education specialists, as well as to develop a performance assessment for effective literacy instruction to replace RICA beginning in the 2025–26 school year.

That’s a good thing because we’ve long heard from colleagues about some of the negative aspects of RICA including the cost to students. Additionally, there have long been questions about whether this particular assessment truly assessed one’s competency. We assembled a literacy work group a couple of years ago, which included experts who represented the broad areas of interest and expertise related to literacy and reading. The group was facilitated by Nancy Brynelson. We wanted to make sure everybody was “at the table” if you will. In October 2022, the commission approved the literacy standards and TPEs from multiple subjects, single subject and education specialists with moderate support needs and extensive support needs. And finally, the literacy standards and the TPEs for the three low-incidence education specialist credentials will be reviewed at a future meeting.

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Can you tell us about some of the new and continuing initiatives to address teacher shortages, especially in areas like special education and STEM subjects?
I think the most exciting work that the commission is doing to address teacher shortages has been the California Teacher Residency Grant Programs. California has dedicated over $500 million to teacher residencies through the program, which the commission administers. And these funds were given to local educational agencies to develop or expand a teacher residency pathway with a partner higher education institution that has a program approved by the commission.

We know that teacher residency programs tend to attract and retain more diverse candidates. They provide a wage. The residency programs that I am most familiar with are the ones from the CSU, and sometimes the wage was $25,000 a year. Sometimes LEAs were able to braid resources to get that up to $35,000 or $40,000. Other programs were able to work with the district to have their paraprofessionals enroll in these residency programs, which allow them to keep benefits and a salary. It’s a program that has such great promise to recruit and retain.

There is research that says residency programs are the optimal way to prepare teachers because these candidates are at a school site for a whole year and they have these deep learning opportunities that aren’t always available in a traditional student teaching program.

This, to me, has been the greatest gift from the state of California that the commission has been able to provide funding for. Staff also provide technical assistance in helping to develop these programs. Now we have new funding from the Legislature to create a technical assistance center that will be a collaboration between an institute of higher education and an LEA to be a source of technical assistance for developing and current residency programs.

You recently retired from your work as assistant vice chancellor, Educator Preparation and Public School Programs, for CSU. What did that position entail and how does it relate to your work on the commission?
I had the privilege of working across our 23-campus system with all the colleges and schools of education to help develop and support educator preparation programs. I got to work with my dean colleagues and faculty to continue the good work of developing educators within our system.

I have had the opportunity to work in a number of educational positions. Several decades ago, I began as a faculty member at CSU Long Beach and the year I was hired, we were going through our accreditation review with the commission. As a new faculty member, I got this indoctrination to what a program review was and I got to see it from that perspective. Then, when I was dean of the college of education, we went through our own accreditation review, which was done jointly with the commission and National Council for Accreditation of Teacher Education (NCATE). I really saw what the commission does from that perspective. I also served on review teams as a faculty member and went to other campuses and helped review programs. Then I came to the commission as the CSU representative.

It’s been interesting to me to see the work of the commission from the different places around the table, if you will. And throughout that time, I continued to be impressed with the work that the commission does — thoughtful, reflective of our three statutory mandates, and caring in a way that I’ve not been a part of in other places that I’ve sat.

I wish the public could see and understand how caring and thoughtful this group of commissioners are and how we put student welfare and student success at the heart of everything that we do. And I mean that very sincerely. The commission staff work so hard behind the scenes in preparation for the meetings to run so smoothly. I also can’t say enough about our executive director, Mary Sandy, who approaches this work with a passion and a thoughtfulness that I think is simply unprecedented.

I know sometimes people aren’t always happy with the decisions or the recommendations that the commission makes, but at the end of the day, I sleep pretty well knowing that the work we’re doing is benefiting the children and youth in California. What’s more important than that?